Marauder barrels may not be made by Green Mountain...

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Marauder barrels may not be made by Green Mountain...

Postby RayK » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:58 pm

Hi all.

I finally found that thread:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/581291/t ... 2+and+177-

Here is the most relevant post. I also believe the "Green Mountain" barrel on the 25 caliber Marauder is just a false rumor. However, there is no question the 25 barrel is excellent.

On June 16 2010, 2:31 PM, Jim posted:

Well this whole "made in america" being absent on the .25 got me to wondering so I called Green Mountain as I still maintain an account with them
Foxed around a bit on the phone, told them I was interested in purchasing a limited run of blanks for airguns in .25, .30 & 9mm
response?

"We don't make air gun barrels"
I understood you were supplying Crosman with .25 barrels?
"No I don't know where that rumor came from"

I do though...it was one of those self-serving, a little bird told me stories posted on the Yellow
quite likley the .25 barrels Crosman is using are Chinese contracted which explains why they deleted the Made in America legend and also why the .25 barrels are generaly speaking superior to the Crosman in house product...
after all Crosman maintains a close working relationship with the Red Chinese who supply a good bit of their product line.
Guess this kinda blows a huge hole in this Made in America mystique surrounding at least the .25 Marauder
I do give props to Crosman for pulling the Made in America legend off the .25 as a barrel is a bit more than springs and fasteners

You guys should be happy Crosman used a superior Red Chinese slave labor barrel rather than experimenting in house or dumping an extra hundred or more to get Green Mountain or LW to provide the blanks!
Its all Good!


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Re: Marauder barrels are not made by Green Mountain...

Postby wahoowad » Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:44 pm

I'm not saying they are or are not, but that "Jim" poster from yellow forum lost credibility with me because you can tell he has an agenda and he is trying to prove his point. So far all it looks like is some dude named Jim from the internet saying that. Someone else could say that they are.
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Re: Marauder barrels are not made by Green Mountain...

Postby tmitch4570 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:40 pm

If you read all the posts on the subject, there are more guys that claim they have "proof" that the barrels are Green Mountain than not. As far as I can see, it's mostly conjecture and reading between the lines. I guess you can believe what you want, I'm going to believe mine is a G-M until there's an official Crosman statement on the subject. I also believe I'll have another beer..... :mrgreen:
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Re: Marauder barrels are not made by Green Mountain...

Postby RayK » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:00 pm

Whoever is making the 25 barrel, I wish they would also make the 22 barrel. The 25 is really a nice gun which shoots all the pellets I've tried with amazing accuracy.
From the reports on the forums, it sounds like the 177 Marauder is consistently good too.
Only the 22 Marauder is hit or miss with some being excellent and others being not so good.

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Re: Marauder barrels are not made by Green Mountain...

Postby RayK » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:15 am

Or maybe they are...

I read a response on that thread that made it sound like Crossman Techs are saying the 25 barrel is made by Green Mountain.

June 16 2010, 9:38 PM
DanB

The 25 cals are Green Mountain Barrels
Apparently I'm the only person so far that got a bum shooting one and in my correspondence with a Crosman engineer concerning a replacement barrel it was expressed that "the Green Mountain Barrels have been real good" and thus he was surprised I had a problem with one.

The replacement barrel shoots fine and if you look down the bore you can see it looks like a decently made barrel typical of american aftermarket quality, not like any chinese ( or Crosman ) barrel I have ever seen..

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Re: Marauder barrels are not made by Green Mountain...

Postby wahoowad » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:14 am

I was told by Greg Davis in April that they are made by Green Mountain. I'm not too concerned whether they are or not as they seem to shoot great regardless.
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Re: Marauder barrels are not made by Green Mountain...

Postby Supercharged86 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:50 pm

He (Gred Davis) told me the same thing in a conversation I had with him last month. And If there's one person out here that knows a thing or two about the Mrod it's him.
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Re: Marauder barrels are not made by Green Mountain...

Postby DaveShooter » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:48 pm

Supercharged86 wrote:He (Gred Davis) told me the same thing in a conversation I had with him last month. And If there's one person out here that knows a thing or two about the Mrod it's him.
Hi Steve Russ Page at crosman told me Green Mnt, was making the barrels for the 25 Mrods :D :D :D
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Re: Marauder barrels are not made by Green Mountain...

Postby Supercharged86 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:51 am

DaveShooter wrote:Hi Steve Russ Page at crosman told me Green Mnt, was making the barrels for the 25 Mrods :D :D :D


Hey Dave, Thanks. Well I think that pretty much settles that debate, now doesn't it?
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Testimony is in favor of 25 barrels bei made by Green Mounta

Postby RayK » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:43 am

Hi all.

Well, it does seem like the testimony is in favor of the 25 Marauder barrels being made by Green Mountain.
Unless I hear otherwise, I will go along with that claim.

Now if only they will start making the 22 stock barrels, I would buy a Marauder in 22 caliber.
I know LW makes generic 22 blanks that can be adapted to the Marauder, but I'd have to do lots of research to figure out what machining is required to adapt it to the Marauder.

I thought this thread, by DogWood, was very interesting about what flaws existed in a stock 22 Marauder barrel.
http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14526

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